Does it count as a commission if I ask an artist:

1) is this older piece of art a “finished piece” and if it’s not, would they be willing to finish it for x money? (They called it a doodle first, which implies it’s not completely finished like other similar pieces they’ve done before)

And/or

2) if the artwork is finished, would it be ok if I could ask another artist to turn your art into a cross stitch pattern that I could use, with your original artist permission?

Like, what’s the etiquette for beginning that conversation? The artist has pretty limited commission space so I don’t want to try and get one for something that isn’t technically a commission and deprive someone else who really does want to commission them, but if I ask them to finish an older artwork that I would pay money for, doesn’t that technically count too?